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Could it be reasonable to assume that volunteers in stage
I think anyone who's seen a magic show has witnessed conversations between the magician along with a supposedly-randomly-chosen audience member that goes something like this:
Magician: What's your company name?
In order to believe that the audience member is definitely an aide,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I'd have to believe that they are lying. However, they aren't providing any evidence that they're not lying, so is it reasonable to visualize that they likely are?
Recently a show on British TV, Enigma, showed Derren Brown conducting a sequence of tricks, all of which can easily be explained simply by saying all the "volunteers" are aides, despite his insistence that they are not (they even displayed a message on-screen after every intermission to that effect).
Furthermore, there's this lecture by James Randi in which he performs a magic trick (go forward to 1:01:00 to see it). Again, James Randi and also the audience member (Lisa) both insist that they is reputable; in fact, Randi spends a lot of the talk saying how magicians are all "honest" because they do not claim that they can have supernatural powers like the psychics and charlatans do. but there's no evidence to believe it. Could it be reasonable to visualize that she is most likely an aide?
Magicians might be using aides, however they really aren't needed. Humans are fundamentally wired to respond in a few ways, which has been shown to be accurate again and again. Like a stage magician you are able to take use of techniques for example cold reading, suggestion, hypnosis as well as natural need for people to want to please. [Ref: (1) My grade 4 teacher, Miss Knott, used me as the stooge. (2) I once used several stooge. Okay, they are both anecdotes, but this is hardly an exceptional claim.]
2) But magicians also do tricks that DON'T require volunteers from audience members. [Ref: Duninger's Complete Encyclopedia of Magic,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], by Joseph Duninger,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], (1967), to choose a random book of magic off my bookshelf.]
With the above premises, the rest is straightforward logic:
If you don't have volunteers,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], then clearly you don't have stooges. So, it is possible to do illusions that fool people - ones where the lay public cannot see any possible explanation of how something was done - that don't rely on stooges.
So, if magicians can regularly perform illusions that have no requirement for stooges, it's a fallacy to visualize that any trick involving volunteers that you cannot explain should be done with stooges. It's even a fallacy to assume that it's a likely explanation.
Obviously, it might be an identical fallacy to visualize that it is not performed by stooges.
In short, magicians have many different techniques,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and using stooges is only one of them.
[Anecdotally, I have been dragged on stage by magicians,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], coupled with tricks performed on me where I have not been a stooge and have no explanation of how they were done, which you would be prepared to happen occasionally if stooges weren't used.]
When it comes to Randi's trick, I do not know how he did it, and when I did, I would not tell you. Given I'm not sure,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and i'm only guessing wildly, I do not mind sharing my thoughts: he spent more time than he required to explaining that the gave the volunteer his pen and his magazine, and IIRC,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], that he took the magazine back afterwards. This suggests to me he may have had a mechanism for determining the chosen word. Historically,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I have been frequently wrong at guessing the mechanism of tricks, so this is wild speculation.
In the question would be the phrases "is it reasonable to visualize they likely are?" and "Is it reasonable to visualize that she is most likely an aide?". So not only assume it's a possibility, but that it's the most likely possibility. I guessing the OP hasn learnt much magic, and therefore are only able to think of one possibility, making it seem probably the most likely. I have learnt sufficient magic to understand there are lots of, many possibilities,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], which stooges aren common. However i could never prove that, not understanding what sort of majority of tricks work - and that i don Oddthinking Jun 8 '11 at 18:32
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